tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post115164927603597777..comments2024-03-20T13:10:11.477+05:30Comments on nanopolitan: An analysis of the results of JEE-2006Abihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06790560045313883673noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-1151765954617194432006-07-01T20:29:00.000+05:302006-07-01T20:29:00.000+05:30You missed out bias against Dalits and OBCs.You missed out bias against Dalits and OBCs.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13441809988487585009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-1151685380188966072006-06-30T22:06:00.000+05:302006-06-30T22:06:00.000+05:30Abi:Thanks for your excellent analysis of JEE, pub...Abi:<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your excellent analysis of JEE, published time to time. I offer my views as follows:<BR/><BR/>1)Everyone is bashing the successful exam, which may be the only qizz-type engineering entrance exam in the world. Although it has some of its own flows, still it is more successful than other exams to separate best from the rest. As Manish Verma, who runs coaching class (http://www.123iitjee.com/iitjee_blog.htm)states: "apparently, the exam tests maths, physics and chemistry, but in reality, it measures speed, strategy and stamina of the candidate".<BR/><BR/>2) Kamal sinha, a graduate of IIT-B and critique of IIT system and IIT-JEE (http://www.kamalsinha.com/iit/iit-jee.html) states that JEE has not achieved much.<BR/><BR/>3)JEE is a problem solving exam, and it has been reported that the JEE rank roughly equates IQ of a student, with top few hundreds can be classified as highly intelligent. Foreign companies ask for JEE rank of a candidate, and Google selects only from top 50 AIR for its specialized work, offering pay of USA for work in India.<BR/><BR/>4) The first entrance exam was a modest exam for IIT-KGP in 1952. Earlier each IIT had its own separate exam, and to reduce hardship of students, a common exam, called IIT-JEE came into existence in late sixties. In our time (1972), the problems were quite complex and there was also a paper of English, due to which almost all students were from metros offering coaching classes. Even today, a newspaper report states quoting IIT-K faculty that 90% of the children of IIT-K faculty could not clear the JEE becuase of lack of coaching class in the city.<BR/><BR/>5) The JEE format was changed to a more complex form in late fifties as more IITs were coming up and competition for bright students became intense. It also become tough as more exotic and mathematically oriented courses (electronic, aeronautics and naval architecture) were introduced, requiring students with sound fundamental knowledge and grasping power.<BR/><BR/>6) The JEE is difficult than AIEEE and it is not possible to correlate the two exams, unless some common dummy questions (not counted for marks) are inserted in both the exams. My random check on ranks obtained by coaching class students for both the exams found that a typical student will receive a lower JEE rank than AIEEE rank, although more students appear in AIEEE. I found that a rank of 1000 in JEE corresponds roughly to 300 AIEEE.<BR/><BR/>7) It is not possible to combine the JEE and AIEEE, due to centuries old caste system percolating in our IIT system. The JEE board vigorously defends the exam (like a snake guarding a pearl in a ruined house). It has denied entry of Indian Institute of Foundry and Forging to JEE, removed Bombay Marine Engineering School and threatened Indian School of Mines in 2004 to delink. Roorkie got bad treatment from rest of the IITs because its four batches got IIT tag when it became IIT in 2002. Also, IIT would not like to depart from JEE.<BR/><BR/>Sorry for the long letter, which the topic demanded.<BR/><BR/>Thanks,<BR/><BR/>Yogesh Upadhyaya<BR/>New Jersey, USAAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13441809988487585009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-1151666273885013342006-06-30T16:47:00.000+05:302006-06-30T16:47:00.000+05:30Hi AbiThe increase in the first-timers is definite...Hi Abi<BR/><BR/>The increase in the first-timers is definitely good. From how much ever I could notice, it is usually the second- and third-times who come to campus burnt-out and lead a retired life through their four years. The broadband LAN in each hostel room, a cultural festival in the even sem and a technical festival in the odd sem make sure that some of them stay comfortably numb. <BR/><BR/>The modified JEE hopes to reduce the proportion of coaching class students and have more of the 'original' ones who are not from major cities. JEE-2006 had a one time exception to let whole bunch (3 lacs as opposed to usual 2 lacs) to appear. Lets wait for next year's results before drawing strong conclusions.<BR/><BR/>Cheers<BR/>PhaniAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-1151660724722140222006-06-30T15:15:00.000+05:302006-06-30T15:15:00.000+05:30As a pass out from IIT Madras, I have been through...As a pass out from IIT Madras, I have been through and seen the JEE system closely.<BR/>From my experience,I can say that the effectiveness of new system can be best understood in terms of the number of qualifying students who are not a part of the major coaching "factories". <BR/><BR/>The rural urban divide is not a proper indicator in such cases. While it is a fad among people from semi rural areas in North India to study in the Bansal classes at Kota, or at FIITJEE in Delhi,people in metropolitan cities like Calcutta or Chennai form very small proportions of these coaching factories. <BR/>Since for the last few years,IIT selections(read "merit")had become a monoploy of such "factories"(We used to joke about the "Kota Textiles" in our IIT hostels),it is important to know if the improved system is able to cope up with this problem. <BR/>I understand the problems of the Government in furnishing such details pinpointing particular commercial organisations,but such statistics,if provided by any source,shall be better identifier of the efficacy of the system.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13441809988487585009noreply@blogger.com