tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post3790456177177533311..comments2024-03-20T13:10:11.477+05:30Comments on nanopolitan: On IIX faculty salaries ...Abihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06790560045313883673noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-67598602152377144382009-09-27T18:28:42.828+05:302009-09-27T18:28:42.828+05:30A conspired episode, Why?
a.Thenmozhi was not giv...A conspired episode, Why?<br /><br />a.Thenmozhi was not given chance after Sibal spoke<br />b.Minister contradicted himself while uttering that an AP can become P in 6 years (notifications clear say that 3 years at AP to become AsP and 4 years again at AsP to become P-total 7 years, at least)<br />c. His knowledge about tenure track in US univ is questionable -it's possible that questions and answers were also supplied by eminent scientists in IISc and a couple of IITs.<br />d.Dinesh mohan's father was a congress MP<br /><br />-VAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-30865282599878625152009-09-27T17:38:21.645+05:302009-09-27T17:38:21.645+05:30and of course, additional pay for the special chai...and of course, additional pay for the special chair holder!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-372738694153177652009-09-27T17:12:56.794+05:302009-09-27T17:12:56.794+05:30Another suggestion is, completely remove this seni...Another suggestion is, completely remove this senior grade and introduce special chairs. Evaluate each prof for the past specified no. of years and offer a special chair professorship for about three years. Make a rule that one who was enjoyed the chair for three years cannot apply for special chair for, say, two years. In this way, more number of profs get benefited.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-30833475132548838162009-09-27T16:54:22.126+05:302009-09-27T16:54:22.126+05:30Evaluating once every three years introduces discr...Evaluating once every three years introduces discretization problem. Instead, evaluate every year the performance of the past three years. Then others wont be looking for retirement and premature deaths of capped profs :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-9049676751749955362009-09-27T16:46:27.366+05:302009-09-27T16:46:27.366+05:30Triennial evaluation is good. However, the 12000 A...Triennial evaluation is good. However, the 12000 AGP should not be called 'senior' grade. The words promoted and demoted are not good, psychologically speaking. Properly renaming it should resolve the issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-40371247797633545652009-09-27T13:39:17.603+05:302009-09-27T13:39:17.603+05:30On the 40% prof.s getting 12000 AGP:
This would n...On the 40% prof.s getting 12000 AGP:<br /> This would not hurt the autonomy if there was an exit clause. Every recipient of the 12000 AGP should be<br />evaluated triennially and those not performing better than the best in <br />the 10,500 AGP should be demoted back to the 10,500 AGP grade. This will open up place for stagnated high performers in the 10500 AGP grade. This evaluation should be transparent and the whole professor (10500 + 12000 AGPs) body should anonymously review and<br />in border line cases external reviews should be sought. <br />This will prevent nepotism and <br />keep the 12000-ers on their toes. We may even see some premature deaths with the stress on the 50+ crowd and that would open up new positions.<br />:-))Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-43461134324205801602009-09-27T08:52:30.400+05:302009-09-27T08:52:30.400+05:30Abi writes in this post what he agrees with. Which...Abi writes in this post what he agrees with. Which is what Mr. Sibal says. eg: the rant that IIT faculty should "think" about market based pay and the risk associated with it, and then the (self directed) assertion that they (IIT profs) will NOT agree to it (meaning that Abi does not agree to it) is a very nice example of what is known as hasty generalization. Abi, have you discussed with IIT profs what you think IIT profs think? Why do you assert they will not accept market based pay (and inequity in pay) if need be? What is the data? (The question and the reasoning are both hypothetical, so you cannot argue against the proposition as is, ok!) . Kapil Sibal's data on attrition at IIT is just a big joke. And Abi proudly repeats it. What is the data? Have you cared to check? Attrition rate at IIT cannot be compared to Infosys, until IIT gives market based pay. Sibal has no data, no experience of IIT system, and hazy ideas about faculty life and academic policies in US univs. And all this comes out "Strong and Swinging". hey hey, very nice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-7326612129541962172009-09-27T01:26:59.174+05:302009-09-27T01:26:59.174+05:30Hello Abi,
While you caught CNNIBN show on Thursd...Hello Abi,<br /><br />While you caught CNNIBN show on Thursday night, I caught this one on NDTV. And unlike your analysis, I thought this was a pathetic excuse of a debate. <br /><br />The last one first... Mr Sibal came out swinging, knowing very well that he can lie and there would be no one to refute. After all, only Prof Dinesh Mohan would be asked anything after Sibal's pyrotechnics and he was on the side of the Ministry. Mr Sibal and Abi are advised to take a look at http://www.education.nic.in/uhe/uhe-circulars.asp put up by the ministry to attract talent to 14 national universities. Well, just about everything said here is rolled back in the case of IITs. I wonder why? <br /><br />Attrition rate is "next to nil" -- well, even Prof Dinesh Mohan (who bats on the same side as Sibal) declares that a lot of young people have left -- for what reasons, he was not allowed to expand on, by Burkha Dutt. I am sure if he was allowed to expand, he would have made a complete ass of himself, but that was not to be...<br /><br />There is a high attrition rate in IITs and most of them are severely understaffed, thanks to the Ministry's overdrive on adding more seats in the UG programs and reckless opening of new IITs. <br /><br />Abi was more hopeful in an earlier post when this IIT faculty pay thingy started, about Asst Profs getting 38K (see the blog on Sept 1, 2009). I guess time (just a month, mind you) has tempered his expectations as his blog on OCAP (Sept 26, 2009) and the part about OCAP in this blog, sounds like a pathetic plea... I guess, you have begun realizing the kind of dictator that Mr Sibal is. Though your admiration for the man would not let you critisize him... Fair enough... <br /><br />About the other speakers, well Mohandas Pai chants his free-market ideas which he expands on http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2009/09/26/stories/2009092650130800.htm<br /><br />I agree with Abi that Prof Thenmozhi did a competent job, but unlike Abi, I agree with her completely. The autonomy plank is not a fake -- Mr Sibal realizes it and therefore shouts that the protest is all about pay only... Abi, Mr Sibal is playing to the gallery and you are being led down the path...<br /><br />Lastly, that excuse of a debater, Prof Dinesh Mohan. He scores brownie points with people sitting on the sidelines with a pre-disposed bias towards IITs. For example, let us look at the only point (well, there were none really) that Abi takes from Prof Mohan in this blog here -- can you please tell me where the IIT faculty have demanded that they be given private sector salaries.. In fact, Abi's blog where he rants against IIM-A has the following: "Take, for example, the modest demands made by IIT faculty associations. They invoke comparisons with other public sector institutions, and limit themselves to getting IIT faculty the benefits that are already available to their cousins in universities and government R&D labs." So sorry, Prof Dinesh Mohan was nothing but a bag of hot air, placed there by the powers that be... And Abi's blog is indeed evidence of how successful that game was...harishnoreply@blogger.com