tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post3652918862660337008..comments2024-03-20T13:10:11.477+05:30Comments on nanopolitan: Dennis Overbye on science and democracyAbihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06790560045313883673noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-41931942926148269242009-02-02T05:23:00.000+05:302009-02-02T05:23:00.000+05:30I don't know whether it is because of the Gita and...I don't know whether it is because of the <A HREF="http://www.aps-pub.com/proceedings/1442/Hijiya.pdf" REL="nofollow">Gita and the Bomb effect</A> but many of these "nuclear physicists" ( e.g. <A HREF="http://uc.princeton.edu/main/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2419&Itemid=1" REL="nofollow">Pervez Hoodbhoy</A> ) too get involved with either religious or socio-political issuues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-64047892424437092512009-01-30T04:39:00.000+05:302009-01-30T04:39:00.000+05:30>rigorous scientific enquiry requires democracy...>rigorous scientific enquiry requires democracy and openness in society<BR/><BR/>Not really. USSR had pretty good science going. So does China. German science flourished under Kaiser Wilhelm.<BR/><BR/>The best religion-science dialogue is happening with Buddhism. And for good reason. The philosophical positions of Buddhism resonates very well with complex systems theory. And this synergy is exactly what Templeton is seeking to block.<BR/><BR/>See here for one interesting initiative:<BR/><BR/>http://www.mindandlife.org/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-1803335876544060712009-01-29T20:05:00.000+05:302009-01-29T20:05:00.000+05:30I fall under the camp of the people (as the prof. ...I fall under the camp of the people (as the prof. in the article in the above comment) who believe that rigorous scientific enquiry requires democracy and openness in society. <BR/><BR/>But the danger is that scientists addressing religious issues leads to cases such as these<BR/><BR/>http://silas.psfc.mit.edu/great_sci.html<BR/><BR/>http://hutchinson.belmont.ma.us/ian.html<BR/><BR/><BR/>where established scientists publicly declare how specific religious beliefs (christianity) influences their science.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-66097714370682298292009-01-29T19:00:00.000+05:302009-01-29T19:00:00.000+05:30Maybe Templeton is a christian lobby but my point ...Maybe Templeton is a christian lobby but my point is that many western scientists are talking about religion. Here is another example -<BR/><A HREF="http://rochestercitynewspaper.com/news/articles/2009/01/PROFILE-Beyond-Science-vs-Religion/" REL="nofollow">Beyond Science vs Religion</A><BR/><BR/>If you look at the departments of many western univ there is an active dialog between religion/humanities department and the scientists but maybe in the more left/right leaning univs or liberal colleges.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-38460647130845673952009-01-29T11:20:00.000+05:302009-01-29T11:20:00.000+05:30Anthills may be natural, but that doesn't make the...Anthills may be natural, but that doesn't make them good. <BR/><BR/>Also, that description doesn't address the criticisms the author himself raises. He argues that science teaches **some** values, but those are not the values people are complaining about. <BR/><BR/>Any activity done by a group of people will teach some values -- drug smugglers, investment bankers, terrorists and pimps have value systems, which keep their activity going. Doesn't mean those values can replace the ones people care about.<BR/><BR/>BTW, Templeton Foundation is a covert Christian lobby.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-75809242602072441942009-01-28T19:46:00.000+05:302009-01-28T19:46:00.000+05:30The criticism of science/scientists in the article...The criticism of science/scientists in the article for not thinking about religion, values, ethics etc. is partly true but at the same time, the work of <A HREF="http://www.templeton.org/" REL="nofollow">Templeton Foundation</A> has to be highlighted in this area including the various <A HREF="http://www.templeton.org/prizes/" REL="nofollow">Templeton Prizes</A> and <A HREF="http://www.templeton.org/funding_areas/" REL="nofollow">funding opportunities</A> for study. I think many famous scientists have been funded by Templeton foundation and won the prizes too. And probably the author of the NYT article doesn't know the existence of the <A HREF="http://www.science-spirit.org/current.php" REL="nofollow">Science & Spirit</A> magazineAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com