tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post1644409540583212655..comments2024-03-16T11:03:09.893+05:30Comments on nanopolitan: New IITs, IIMsAbihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06790560045313883673noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-28161526685576623352008-03-29T11:03:00.000+05:302008-03-29T11:03:00.000+05:30Reg a comment abt luring folks from abroad -you ca...Reg a comment abt luring folks from abroad -<BR/>you cannot lure with just the carrot of pay and teaching. nobody is going their comfortable life just for teaching ( there maybe a few) but most will look at concomitant research and career development opportunities.<BR/><BR/>And there is another social factor issue with opening new instis which I shamelessly borrow from a comment left in another blog -<BR/><BR/>"....Lets assume that more and more women are going to have a career unlike most Indian grand-mothers and many Indian mothers. This means that future spouses of Indian men are going to as interested in career prospects rather than cooking. So if all the new institues ( or the economy of the areas themselves ) that are going to open in rural/semi-urban areas don't cater to the females then they are going to have problems recruiting people from urban areas unless the recruitment also acquires more of a local flavour. In such a scenario raising the profile and standards of these institues will become intimately linked to the growth and development of the surrounding areas. That should make for some real interesting social dynamics in the coming times..."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-7934343813551426642008-03-29T10:35:00.000+05:302008-03-29T10:35:00.000+05:30I agree with you abhi - India has enough of profes...I agree with you abhi - India has enough of professional institutes that can be upgraded to be of the quality of IITs and IIMs. We do need more quality professional institutes to accomodate the burgeoning student population from non-metropolitan areas and also to meet the workforce demands of a growing economy but do we need to start a new central insti from scratch ? how about upgrading the state instis in many places ?<BR/><BR/>But at the same time we need more of world class, all-round education imparting ( humanities, sciences, social sciences, law ) universities like so many of the better universities in America.<BR/><BR/>Are we going to end up with a educated population of only engineers and managers ? What about quality people in other disciplines ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-13016175365804942422008-03-29T09:04:00.000+05:302008-03-29T09:04:00.000+05:30Is it 5 lakhs X 5 years = 25 lakhs, or is it 5 lak...Is it 5 lakhs X 5 years = 25 lakhs, or is it 5 lakhs over 5 years?<BR/><BR/>5 lakhs over 5 years is of the same order of start up grants in IITs. But the IITs themselves are facing a faculty crunch, with this sort of start-up grants. So, if the government thinks they can lure faculty back with that sort of money, they are simply deluding themselves.<BR/><BR/>PratikAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-39520106760556112022008-03-29T01:15:00.000+05:302008-03-29T01:15:00.000+05:30http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_I...http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/Govt_to_lure_faculty_with_attractive_package/articleshow/2907137.cmsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-66446819971047957732008-03-29T01:12:00.000+05:302008-03-29T01:12:00.000+05:30Kerala papers are reporting that entry-level salar...Kerala papers are reporting that entry-level salaries will be 60,000, and those working abroad will be lured with Ramanujan fellowships (5 lakhs for 5 years).<BR/><BR/>Any idea what would be the entry level salaries after the revised pay scales?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-25296782213444274822008-03-29T00:13:00.000+05:302008-03-29T00:13:00.000+05:30Hmmmm ...I remember sometime back Vedanta Universi...Hmmmm ...<BR/><BR/>I remember sometime back Vedanta University was hot news. Anyone got any updates on Vedanta University?<BR/><BR/>Are they still on course to start taking in undergrad students from 2009 as stated by them an year back?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-54742172187353902582008-03-29T00:04:00.000+05:302008-03-29T00:04:00.000+05:30Well, you know our government. In Balaram's words,...Well, you know our government. In Balaram's words, it wants to sprint...when it can't even stand.Wavefunctionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14993805391653267639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-32404029636159318102008-03-28T20:24:00.000+05:302008-03-28T20:24:00.000+05:30Prof Abi, I would take it with a pinch of salt - t...Prof Abi,<BR/><BR/> I would take it with a pinch of salt - the term "world class" universities. With the kind of allocations they are talking abt - for infrastructure, faculty compensation, research grants etc. - it just remains to be seen what they mean by "world class". See the ad-hoc manner of decisions regarding IITs - till yesterday they were talking abt 3 IITs in some other states! And finally with the kind of faculty compensation - Rs. 12000 pm at start for Asst. prof in the old scale - Rs. 15600 + 7600 grade pay in the new scale - it is indeed going to be very tall order! Do these bureaucrats have any sense of what is going on in the real world? <BR/><BR/> -KumarAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-88282885199356931672008-03-28T19:55:00.000+05:302008-03-28T19:55:00.000+05:30A general question regarding university teaching a...A general question regarding university teaching at the undergrad level: What is the general trend as far as course selection goes nowadays? I remember that I couldn't take Math when majoring in Microbiology if I wanted to---heck it was impossible to be able to take Chemistry for all 3 years of college when majoring in Botany or Zoo or Micro. At the time, if you majored in a biological science (10+2+3 system) you pretty much entered the world with only a high-school level knowledge of physics, chem, math and pretty much all else. Is it generally better now, in colleges around the nation?Anonymoustachehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07087423180514517335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-47622554782212511132008-03-28T19:05:00.000+05:302008-03-28T19:05:00.000+05:30Where did you get the notion that none of the cent...Where did you get the notion that none of the central universities do undergraduate teaching? Delhi University has huge numbers (albeit via affiliated colleges). So do AMU, Pondicherry, NEHU, and others. University of Hyderabad now has "integrated MSc" courses. I don't know about the rest but I suspect most of them do, too...Rahul Siddharthanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04809667965184094636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9818962.post-90262909582415623772008-03-28T18:25:00.000+05:302008-03-28T18:25:00.000+05:30We will have to wait and see what lies behind the ...We will have to wait and see what lies behind the term "world-class" universities.<BR/><BR/>No university in India at present has any institutional mechanisms to facilitate a broad , wide ranging education of a student across multiple disciplines. Almost all enlightened real universities allow the student to use a 'make your own recipe' model in some form.<BR/><BR/>This is completely counter to the present mechanisms in Indian universities.<BR/><BR/>If you want places like U. Chicago , Stanford, Harvard , Caltech you need people like Fred Terman , Milikan , Charles Eliot , Robert Hutchins who introduced new ideas such as electives , Great books program , university parks ; ideas which are now part of the mainstream in the US. <BR/><BR/>The combination of old ideas and new money will lead to the old result : more mediocrity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com